• a period of simulated exhilaration

    From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.53423 to Whispering Squash on Sun Aug 23 02:05:25 2026
    Hey Whispering Squash!

    Finally! I've now liberated this machine to be my very own personal workstation. With 128G of ecc ddr4 ram it makes it perfect for creating and exploiting ramdisks for building toolchains as opposed to using disks. Not the fastest machine here but by far the most capable.

    <Esc>:read !free -h
    total used free shared buff/cache available
    Mem: 125Gi 1.2Gi 125Gi 5.0Mi 111Mi 124Gi
    Swap: 0B 0B 0B

    We don't need no stinkin' swap.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to Maurice Kinal on Sun Aug 23 08:03:22 2026
    Hey Maurice!

    On Sat, Aug 22 2026 21:05:25 -0500, you wrote:

    Finally! I've now liberated this machine to be my very own personal workstation. With 128G of ecc ddr4 ram it makes it perfect for creating
    and exploiting ramdisks for building toolchains as opposed to using
    disks. Not the fastest machine here but by far the most capable.

    Sheesh. I wish I could get my hands on that much ram, without having a mortgage payment to aquire it!

    Alas, the 32G in my server and another 32G in my gaming rig are going to have to suffice for the time being.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Nick Boel on Sun Aug 23 16:03:05 2026
    Hey Nick!

    I wish I could get my hands on that much ram, without having a
    mortgage payment to aquire it!

    I blame AI, data centers, and other such nonsense for that insanity.

    Alas, the 32G in my server and another 32G in my gaming rig are
    going to have to suffice for the time being.

    Not counting the machine I posted the orginal from, it sounds like we're leading parallel lives, cyberly-speaking.

    <Esc>:read !free -h
    total used free shared buff/cache available
    Mem: 28Gi 706Mi 27Gi 1.2Mi 191Mi 27Gi
    Swap: 0B 0B 0B

    ddr5 so-dimm in this case. No ramdisks but it definetly can take care of itself. My rule of thumb these days is at least 2G per penguin makes for a capable system for development. In this case that only leaves me roughly 8G for chrootable ramdisk which is enough for me. However the epyc based system has almost 100G of ddr4 ecc ram to spare which makes it leader of the pack in this neck of the woods. As of yesterday I managed to liberate it for my personal evil, demented purposes. It has become personal. :-)

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nick Boel@1:154/10 to Maurice Kinal on Sun Aug 23 11:29:48 2026
    Hey Maurice!

    On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 16:03:04 , you wrote:

    I blame AI, data centers, and other such nonsense for that insanity.

    I already do. However, those things are keeping my trade (ironworkers) veeeeery busy these days. Still not busy enough to encourage me to buy ram at this point, however, prices seem to be leveling off and coming back down to a more 'sane' category. Nothing like it was, though.. and probably never will be.

    ddr5 so-dimm in this case.

    I don't even have ddr5 yet. ddr4 is working just fine currently in my gaming machine, and my server machine is still on ddr3, which still chugs along nicely for what it's intended for.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Nick Boel on Sun Aug 23 17:18:40 2026
    Hey Nick!

    those things are keeping my trade (ironworkers) veeeeery busy these
    days.

    My youngest is in the "affordable" home construction trade and reports the same for that industry.

    I don't even have ddr5 yet. ddr4 is working just fine currently in
    my gaming machine

    Onboard graphics? Usually seperate graphics cards have been using ddr5 for ages now.

    and my server machine is still on ddr3, which still chugs along
    nicely for what it's intended for.

    I have one of those as well. However it takes more power and space for my liking which is why I bought the epyc in the first place. Far less power consumption and far more capable than the ddr3 system.

    No regrets.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nick Boel@1:154/10 to Maurice Kinal on Sun Aug 23 14:08:36 2026
    Hey Maurice!

    On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 17:18:40 , you wrote:

    Onboard graphics? Usually seperate graphics cards have been using ddr5
    for ages now.

    While my processor has onboard graphics (Intel UHD graphics 630), I've never used it. I have an Auros RTX 3060 12gb. ddr5 ram has only been around since 2020. I probably built my gaming machine around that time, or maybe just before since my processor was released in 2018. I went with ddr4 either because ddr5 wasn't out yet, or was very new and outrageously expensive at the time. Still is, even.

    Haven't had any issues with any games yet, and probably won't even start thinking about upgrading it until I do.

    I have one of those as well. However it takes more power and space for
    my liking which is why I bought the epyc in the first place. Far less
    power consumption and far more capable than the ddr3 system.

    I imagine when my server ever starts having issues, I'll probably just go with a mini PC to replace it. Plenty of horsepower, very low power consumption, and a lot better priced than server hardware. Only issue would be longevity (they don't last nearly as long as server hardware, and storage, as most of them don't come with more than 1tb but are usually upgradable.

    Granted, I tend to plan ahead for things that never happen.. at the moment my current server has 4tb (8tb in a raid 1), and I'm currently probably using less than 100gb of it. I got rid of a lot of unneeded stuff, and don't hoard movies/TV shows/music any more. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.64222 to Nick Boel on Sun Aug 23 20:15:12 2026
    Hey Nick!

    (Intel UHD graphics 630)

    The only intel here at the moment shows UHD Graphics 620. ddr4 so-dimm. It claimed to be able to handle 64G total but couldn't get it to boot with more than 32G. However, by my rule of thumb, the penguins only need 16G (2 x 8) so that leaves 16G for ramdisk(s). I figure 2 8G ramdisks would be the way to go but have yet to try it. This one is replacing the epyc as of yesterday so I haven't gotten around to it. As for ddr4 so-dimm I have two matched pairs of 64G that currently look to be collecting dust for a lack of a suitable motherboard, probably mini-itx. I doubt there is a laptop that can handle 64G, especially considering they only have a single slot. Also I hate to break up matched pairs.

    I'll probably just go with a mini PC to replace it.

    Sounds like a plan.

    at the moment my current server has 4tb (8tb in a raid 1), and I'm
    currently probably using less than 100gb of it.

    The epyc has 4 2tb hotswappable 3.5" sata spinney drives as we speak. I haven't bothered with raid and have no plans to although I could. Also I think it could handle 4tb drives if needed, perhaps bigger. The intel, which I am using to reply to you, has 8 hotswappable sata ports, but am anly using four 2.5" flash disks - or whatever the kids are calling them these days - and only one of them is 1tb.

    I tend to plan ahead for things that never happen

    I hear you.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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